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Infrared Photography

Postby Mike Farley » Wed 06 Feb 2013, 23:26

During my presentation tonight, there were requests for some of the information I provided to be placed on the forum.

The two companies in the UK which do infrared conversions for cameras are:


I used ACS, finding them to be helpful when answering my queries beforehand. The turnaround between dispatch and receiving it back was about a week and there have been no problems with the camera since. They handle most makes and models, servicing the camera before conversion and guaranteeing the work for six months. It is also worth asking both companies if they have for sale any cameras which are already converted.

Another source of cameras is eBay, which comes with the usual caveat emptor health warning. I have heard that there are Chinese conversions offered at attractive prices, but which are not of good quality. On the other hand, you might also find someone offering their used camera for sale which they had converted by one of the UK companies and pick up a bargain.

It is worth noting that some early Pentax *ist D cameras were not well made and spare parts for Minolta cameras are now becoming scarce, so it is definitely worthwhile checking that an older camera is suitable for conversion. The camera I used was a Canon EOS 450D which I picked up as a refurbished "Grade B" item for a good price at Focus. The vendor was Jacobs, so such opportunities might be so readily available these days.

Canon lenses suitable for IR photography are:

  • EF 28 mm f/2.8
  • EF 50 mm f/1.8 (Mk I and Mk II)
  • EF-S 10 – 22 mm f/3.5 – 4.5 USM
  • EF 17 – 40 f/4 L USM
  • EF 24 – 70 mm f/2.8 L USM Mk I (Mk II?)
  • EF 24 – 85 f/3.5 – 4.5 USM

The Canon lenses not suitable for IR are:

  • EF 20 mm f/2.8
  • EF 24 mm f/2.8
  • EF 16 – 35 mm f/3.5 – 4.5 USM (Mk 1 and Mk II)
  • EF-S 17 – 55 f/2.8 IS USM
  • EF 17 – 85 f/3.5 – 4.5 IS USM
  • EF 18 – 55 f/3.5 – 5.6 USM IS USM
  • EF 20 – 35 mm f/2.8 USM
  • EF 28 – 70 f/2.8 L USM

Other lenses suitable for IR:

  • Nikon 20 mm f/2.8D
  • Nikon AF-S 12 – 24 mm f/4G
  • Nikon AF-S 18 – 55 mm f/3.5 – 5.6
  • Nikon AF-S 24 – 70 mm f/2.8G
  • Pentax DA 18 – 55 mm f/3.5 – 5.6
  • Pentax 50 mm f/1.4
  • Pentax 12 – 24 mm f/4

Other lenses unsuitable for IR:

  • Nikon 24 mm f/2.8D
  • Nikon 24 mm f/2.8D
  • Nikon 35 mm f/1.4
  • Nikon 35 mm f/1.8
  • Nikon 50 mm f/1.4
  • Nikon 50 mm f/1.8D Mk I
  • Nikon AF-S 24 – 70 mm f/2.8
  • Pentax SMC DA 16 – 45 mm

These lists are not exhaustive, neither do they cover some recent lens releases from the last few months having been compiled a while back. The Canon 24 - 105 L IS USM is not mentioned, for example, yet I have successfully taken many IR shots with it on my converted EOS 450D.

I hope this helps anyone who is interested about getting into this fascinating aspect of photography.
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Re: Infrared Photography

Postby davidc » Thu 07 Feb 2013, 08:13

Why aren't certain lenses suitable? Coatings on the glass blocking IR possibly?
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Re: Infrared Photography

Postby Mike Farley » Thu 07 Feb 2013, 08:53

davidc wrote:Why aren't certain lenses suitable? Coatings on the glass blocking IR possibly?


You should have been at the presentation to find out. ;)

Lenses are not designed to transmit IR light and this can cause problems with flare when the IR rays travel in uncorrected paths. Normally this is not a problem as conventional film is not sensitive to IR and for digital manufacturers block it with a filter in front of the sensor. In the presentation I showed an example of flare when I had taken a shot in the direction of the sun, although it was not visible as it was behind the ruins of Tintern Abbey. It was a consistent effect as I changed position and retook the photo, only to get the same result.

The other issue which can arise are hot spots, where the centre of the image is lighter than than the edges. Some lenses are better than others in this regard, although hot spots are more easily dealt with, especially when shooting in Raw. In the practical demonstration, I showed how you can use the local adjustment brush in ACR to reduce the brighter areas by adjusting the exposure and highlight controls. This does depend on the hot spot not totally blowing the highlights, of course. In my experience, hot spots tend to occur more when when using an IR filter in front of the lens rather than a modified camera.
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Re: Infrared Photography

Postby Mike Farley » Thu 07 Feb 2013, 09:34

This is the uncropped image to which I referred in the previous post. The lens used was my Canon 17 - 55 IS USM.
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Re: Infrared Photography

Postby davidc » Thu 07 Feb 2013, 09:42

That looks like a giant thumbprint on the 2nd image :)

I'm sorry I couldn't make it, it's very interesting to me and I want to do this type of photography myself. Was working from home all night though :(
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Re: Infrared Photography

Postby Mike Farley » Thu 07 Feb 2013, 10:08

davidc wrote:That looks like a giant thumbprint on the 2nd image :)
:(


So not the lens at all, just the old finger placement trouble again. I must learn to get control of my digits! :D
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Re: Infrared Photography

Postby davidc » Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:56

20 years ago image #2 would probably be chalked up to a ghost being captured in a photo.
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Re: Infrared Photography

Postby Peter Boughton » Thu 07 Feb 2013, 13:21

on the 2nd image

image #2


?

I only see a single photo in this whole thread? (The "Tintern Abbey Flare.jpg" one.)

Am I missing something?
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Re: Infrared Photography

Postby davidc » Thu 07 Feb 2013, 15:59

Ghost has nicked the first one.
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Re: Infrared Photography

Postby Mike Farley » Thu 07 Feb 2013, 18:48

Yep, definitely a ghost! Both in the image and nicking one of them.

Actually, I did upload two. After I had added the first one, I realised that it was over the maximum file size, so I created a smaller one and deleted the first. Somehow, Dave must have seen both whilst I was doing this.
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