This was an experimental shot - I've created my own 10 stop ND filter and wanted to capture the motion in the wheel and the clouds. Though I've not quite achieved what I want it's certainly been educational and I'll definitely been trying the technique out more.
Even though it needed cleaning up in photoshop but it's still got a film-style look I quite like.
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I enjoy the contrast between the blurred movement of the wheel and the sharpness of its surroundings. I am less enamoured of the yellow colour cast, though, it looks odd rather than retro. Did you try a mono version?
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The 10 stop filter is actually homemade from welding glass To dip my toes into the long exposure waters (I'm guessing they feel like cotton wool), I took a £1.20 77mm adaptor ring and a £1.20 piece of 10 stop welding glass and superglued the two together. After making sure it was set for several days I noticed the vapours from the glue had set across residues on the glass, left there by my fingers I presume, so I then cleaned the glass using ethanol (nail varnish remover).
The glass itself has a really strong green tint as evidenced in this shot, essentially a SOOC raw conversion with no other tweaks at all
Coupled with most of the scene being blue, blue+green = yellow tinge. While I don't think it's THAT intrusive (no different to what different film would give) I do want to experiment setting a custom WB beforehand to try to minimise it further.
Failing that I'll convert to mono - which I tried for this shot but it didn't suit it, insufficient contrast and it was just a blur of mid-tones.
I know the shot isn't stunning (though the online viewers seem to like it!) but as an experiment that saved me £146 on a 10 stop ND filter I'm pleased with the outcome
The glass itself has a really strong green tint as evidenced in this shot, essentially a SOOC raw conversion with no other tweaks at all
Coupled with most of the scene being blue, blue+green = yellow tinge. While I don't think it's THAT intrusive (no different to what different film would give) I do want to experiment setting a custom WB beforehand to try to minimise it further.
Failing that I'll convert to mono - which I tried for this shot but it didn't suit it, insufficient contrast and it was just a blur of mid-tones.
I know the shot isn't stunning (though the online viewers seem to like it!) but as an experiment that saved me £146 on a 10 stop ND filter I'm pleased with the outcome
#218 - Waspish
I've never tried focus stacking so many images so carefully before and I'm really pleased with the outcome
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davidc wrote:The 10 stop filter is actually homemade from welding glass To dip my toes into the long exposure waters (I'm guessing they feel like cotton wool), I took a £1.20 77mm adaptor ring and a £1.20 piece of 10 stop welding glass and superglued the two together. After making sure it was set for several days I noticed the vapours from the glue had set across residues on the glass, left there by my fingers I presume, so I then cleaned the glass using ethanol (nail varnish remover).
The glass itself has a really strong green tint as evidenced in this shot, essentially a SOOC raw conversion with no other tweaks at all
Coupled with most of the scene being blue, blue+green = yellow tinge. While I don't think it's THAT intrusive (no different to what different film would give) I do want to experiment setting a custom WB beforehand to try to minimise it further.
Failing that I'll convert to mono - which I tried for this shot but it didn't suit it, insufficient contrast and it was just a blur of mid-tones.
I know the shot isn't stunning (though the online viewers seem to like it!) but as an experiment that saved me £146 on a 10 stop ND filter I'm pleased with the outcome
Even "proper" 10x ND filters create colour casts and I have seen a definite blue tinge with my Lee Big Stopper and have seen reports of others getting a pink cast. Nothing approaching the severity of the colour shifts which you showed in your SOOC shot, though.
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Yes I'd read about the colour casts on the more expensive options too. Still I figured a £1.20 experiment made more sense than a £150 experiment, especially when a custom WB or mono conversion can fix it. I'd expected the welding glass to have imperfections in so I even bought three - 1 was scratched, 1 had a tiny air bubble near the bottom and the third was perfectly fine. Quite pleased with my purchase and DIY skills
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davidc wrote:Yes I'd read about the colour casts on the more expensive options too. Still I figured a £1.20 experiment made more sense than a £150 experiment, especially when a custom WB or mono conversion can fix it. I'd expected the welding glass to have imperfections in so I even bought three - 1 was scratched, 1 had a tiny air bubble near the bottom and the third was perfectly fine. Quite pleased with my purchase and DIY skills
The opportunities and suitable subjects for using a ND fiter are fairly limited, especially as it involves a tripod. Provided you can overcome the colour cast issues (and I am still not convinced about your London Eye image) or opt to shoot in mono, welding glass looks like a cost effective way to go. Thanks for the tip.
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I'm not sure what you are not sure about
This was a relatively quick processing by letting ACR do the best it could automatically, (basically as much correction as it could) followed by perspective correction, noise reduction & sharpening. Aside from the abortive B&W check, it was more of an experiment into the technique than completely fixing the flaws inherent in using long exposure ND filters. I certainly don't mind using a tripod, in this case my gorillapod
Basically, it's proven I can use the welding glass as an adequate substitute for something 100 times the price and with more focus on PP/custom WB (or just plan for a monochrome scene from the outset) I think the glass and the technique has a lot of potential.
30 secs exposure at midday definitely opens up options!
This was a relatively quick processing by letting ACR do the best it could automatically, (basically as much correction as it could) followed by perspective correction, noise reduction & sharpening. Aside from the abortive B&W check, it was more of an experiment into the technique than completely fixing the flaws inherent in using long exposure ND filters. I certainly don't mind using a tripod, in this case my gorillapod
Basically, it's proven I can use the welding glass as an adequate substitute for something 100 times the price and with more focus on PP/custom WB (or just plan for a monochrome scene from the outset) I think the glass and the technique has a lot of potential.
30 secs exposure at midday definitely opens up options!
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davidc wrote:I'm not sure what you are not sure about
I am not sure what you are not sure about what I am not sure about!
I have seen the use of welding glass as a ND filter advocated elsewhere, so I share your confidence that the WB issue can be sorted out. And yes, it does open up options.
#219 - Moreish
A very slow photography day...
Still, with my macro head on, even treats are targets. I wish I had more time & inspiration.
Moreish - 219/365 by cedarsphoto, on Flickr
Still, with my macro head on, even treats are targets. I wish I had more time & inspiration.
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